In a recent interview with author David J. Betz, the ongoing role of fortified structures in military defense and cybersecurity was discussed. Betz highlighted the viability of fortified structures against adversaries who lack advanced weapons and tactics. He cited examples such as Russia's field fortifications in the Ukraine conflict, China's fortified reefs in the South China Sea, and Hamas' underground fortification in Gaza. Betz also mentioned the continuous construction and maintenance of fortified structures by governments and private industry, pointing to the extensive security upgrades in various installations. He noted the presence of a diverse and creative private fortification industry, with companies like ArmorCore specializing in ballistic-resistant fiberglass panels. Betz predicted that the trend of fortification would continue due to the fear of attacks and the demand for data security. However, he also expressed concerns about the potential loss of privacy in a highly fortified society and suggested that the trend may eventually slow and reverse [1feef396].